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		<title>Comment on Mathemagic by Xander</title>
		<link>http://yozh.org/2010/09/30/mathemagic/#comment-741</link>
		<dc:creator>Xander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2012 16:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oi.  Good catch.  I think this fixes the problem:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p style=&quot;text-align:center&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://yozh.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/mathemagic000-fixed.png&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Four Color Theorem holds true (this was proved in the last 50 years or so), so given any map, it is &lt;i&gt;possible&lt;/i&gt; to color the regions in such a way that no two regions that share a border have the same color.  Actually finding such a coloring, on the other hand, can be quite difficult.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There is a small problem with real maps&#8212;namely, we often insist that disjoint regions be constrained to share a color (i.e. we might insist that both the lower and upper peninsulas of Michigan have the same color).  The Four Color Theorem does not hold in this circumstance.  That said, the US map is sufficiently free of such cases, and can be colored with only four colors (in fact, this is true of most real maps).  I think that I managed to fix my error, and that the new map works.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oi.  Good catch.  I think this fixes the problem:</p>
<p style="text-align:center"><img src="http://yozh.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/mathemagic000-fixed.png" /></p>
<p>The Four Color Theorem holds true (this was proved in the last 50 years or so), so given any map, it is <i>possible</i> to color the regions in such a way that no two regions that share a border have the same color.  Actually finding such a coloring, on the other hand, can be quite difficult.</p>
<p>There is a small problem with real maps&mdash;namely, we often insist that disjoint regions be constrained to share a color (i.e. we might insist that both the lower and upper peninsulas of Michigan have the same color).  The Four Color Theorem does not hold in this circumstance.  That said, the US map is sufficiently free of such cases, and can be colored with only four colors (in fact, this is true of most real maps).  I think that I managed to fix my error, and that the new map works.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mathemagic by Austin</title>
		<link>http://yozh.org/2010/09/30/mathemagic/#comment-740</link>
		<dc:creator>Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2012 15:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your description of the map is inaccurate. Missouri and Kentucky are both yellow, but they do share a short border along the Mississippi River. Is there another way to color the map so that no two states of the same color share a border?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your description of the map is inaccurate. Missouri and Kentucky are both yellow, but they do share a short border along the Mississippi River. Is there another way to color the map so that no two states of the same color share a border?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Collatz Fractal by Xander</title>
		<link>http://yozh.org/2012/01/12/the_collatz_fractal/#comment-519</link>
		<dc:creator>Xander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 17:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The general goal was to get a smooth function that behaved in a particular manner over the integers.  Since [latex]i\sin(\pi z)[/latex] vanishes over the integers, we can get the behaviour that we want, i.e. [latex]C(x)&#124;_{\mathbb{Z}} = f(x)[/latex] if we drop it.  It was sloppy of me to not go over those details.  Sorry.

Alternatively, I suppose that we could do a better job of choosing the characteristic functions in the first place.  [latex]cos(\pi z/2) = \pm 1[/latex] when [latex]z[/latex] is even, and 0 otherwise; and [latex]\sin(\pi z/2) = \pm 1[/latex] when [latex]z[/latex] is odd, and 0 otherwise.  Squaring these gives us the behaviour we want for the characteristic functions, and application of the power reducing formulae will give us the formula I originally gave.

The morals of the story:  first, the smooth extensions of functions to larger domains need not be unique; and second, I shouldn&#039;t try to work from three sets of notes at the same time.

Thanks for keeping me honest,
xander</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The general goal was to get a smooth function that behaved in a particular manner over the integers.  Since [latex]i\sin(\pi z)[/latex] vanishes over the integers, we can get the behaviour that we want, i.e. [latex]C(x)|_{\mathbb{Z}} = f(x)[/latex] if we drop it.  It was sloppy of me to not go over those details.  Sorry.</p>
<p>Alternatively, I suppose that we could do a better job of choosing the characteristic functions in the first place.  [latex]cos(\pi z/2) = \pm 1[/latex] when [latex]z[/latex] is even, and 0 otherwise; and [latex]\sin(\pi z/2) = \pm 1[/latex] when [latex]z[/latex] is odd, and 0 otherwise.  Squaring these gives us the behaviour we want for the characteristic functions, and application of the power reducing formulae will give us the formula I originally gave.</p>
<p>The morals of the story:  first, the smooth extensions of functions to larger domains need not be unique; and second, I shouldn&#8217;t try to work from three sets of notes at the same time.</p>
<p>Thanks for keeping me honest,<br />
xander</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Collatz Fractal by Jason Liszka</title>
		<link>http://yozh.org/2012/01/12/the_collatz_fractal/#comment-516</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Liszka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 05:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, I could only get
C(z) = 1/4 * (2 + 7z - (2 + 5z) cos (pi *z))
from 
C(z) = (-1^z + 1)/2 * (z / 2) – (-1^z – 1)/2 * (3*z + 1)
if I let -1^z = cos (pi * z). But -1^z = cos (pi * z) - i sin (pi * z).

cos(pi*z) behaves the same on positive integers as -1^z, so I guess the choice is arbitrary. I was just a little confused by the derivation. Using -1^z I get a different fractal that diverges almost everywhere.

Great post! Fun thinking about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, I could only get<br />
C(z) = 1/4 * (2 + 7z &#8211; (2 + 5z) cos (pi *z))<br />
from<br />
C(z) = (-1^z + 1)/2 * (z / 2) – (-1^z – 1)/2 * (3*z + 1)<br />
if I let -1^z = cos (pi * z). But -1^z = cos (pi * z) &#8211; i sin (pi * z).</p>
<p>cos(pi*z) behaves the same on positive integers as -1^z, so I guess the choice is arbitrary. I was just a little confused by the derivation. Using -1^z I get a different fractal that diverges almost everywhere.</p>
<p>Great post! Fun thinking about this.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Collatz Fractal by Xander</title>
		<link>http://yozh.org/2012/01/12/the_collatz_fractal/#comment-512</link>
		<dc:creator>Xander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 15:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are correct.  My nemesis, the dreaded WRONG SIGN has reared his ugly head once again.  I have corrected the post.

Thank you,
xander</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are correct.  My nemesis, the dreaded WRONG SIGN has reared his ugly head once again.  I have corrected the post.</p>
<p>Thank you,<br />
xander</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Collatz Fractal by Jason Liszka</title>
		<link>http://yozh.org/2012/01/12/the_collatz_fractal/#comment-510</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Liszka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 01:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting! I tried to replicate this and noticed you have a sign error in your first definition of C(z).  You have
C(z) = (-1^z + 1)/2 * (z / 2) + (-1^z - 1)/2 * (3*z + 1)
but I think it should be
C(z) = (-1^z + 1)/2 * (z / 2) - (-1^z - 1)/2 * (3*z + 1).
With the first definition, C(5) = -16 and C^n(i) diverges very rapidly. With the second definition, C(5) = 16 and C^n(i) diverges, but not quite so dramatically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting! I tried to replicate this and noticed you have a sign error in your first definition of C(z).  You have<br />
C(z) = (-1^z + 1)/2 * (z / 2) + (-1^z &#8211; 1)/2 * (3*z + 1)<br />
but I think it should be<br />
C(z) = (-1^z + 1)/2 * (z / 2) &#8211; (-1^z &#8211; 1)/2 * (3*z + 1).<br />
With the first definition, C(5) = -16 and C^n(i) diverges very rapidly. With the second definition, C(5) = 16 and C^n(i) diverges, but not quite so dramatically.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Spider&#8217;s Web by Carrie</title>
		<link>http://yozh.org/2012/01/17/spiders_web/#comment-506</link>
		<dc:creator>Carrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 22:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perfect subject for the prompt :) It almost felt like the narration of a documentary, I could see the spider crafting her web, strand by gooey strand</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perfect subject for the prompt :) It almost felt like the narration of a documentary, I could see the spider crafting her web, strand by gooey strand</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Typical Morning by Xander</title>
		<link>http://yozh.org/2011/12/09/a-typical_morning/#comment-473</link>
		<dc:creator>Xander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suzanne:  The dog is fine.  She and Katja are getting along very well.

xander</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suzanne:  The dog is fine.  She and Katja are getting along very well.</p>
<p>xander</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Typical Morning by Tom Nixon</title>
		<link>http://yozh.org/2011/12/09/a-typical_morning/#comment-470</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Nixon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 23:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s always nice to have a reminder of why I did not procreate (even though I admit to going through the motions several times).  Me + offspring would = a severely irrational me.  Keep up the good work (somebody&#039;s gotta do it). With love to you both, great-Uncle Tom (cabin optional).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s always nice to have a reminder of why I did not procreate (even though I admit to going through the motions several times).  Me + offspring would = a severely irrational me.  Keep up the good work (somebody&#8217;s gotta do it). With love to you both, great-Uncle Tom (cabin optional).</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Typical Morning by Suzanne Henderson</title>
		<link>http://yozh.org/2011/12/09/a-typical_morning/#comment-465</link>
		<dc:creator>Suzanne Henderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Xander, You are very funny and of course I noticed that Katja always comes first and that is the way it is.  I am so happy for your new family.  How is the doggy by the way?
Auntie, Suzanne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Xander, You are very funny and of course I noticed that Katja always comes first and that is the way it is.  I am so happy for your new family.  How is the doggy by the way?<br />
Auntie, Suzanne</p>
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